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Post by Chris on Sept 24, 2007 6:20:06 GMT -5
After watching the game yesterday, I came away with some concern with Carson and his play calling. Seemed to me that Carson was more concerned with personal stats yesterday rather than winning the game. First and for most I feel that Carson is the best all around QB with the exception of T. Brady. Carson will break most NFL records when he is done. But seems to me that an offensive coordinator should step in and assist Carson with more play calling. The biggest reason the running game was shut down yesterday is when Carson changes plays at the line a vast majority of the time it is changed to a running play, I noticed this and Seattle sure as hell noticed it. I also call for for Marvin to call the defensive plays. Any thoughts remember I love the BENGALS
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Post by coffeeman on Sept 24, 2007 15:03:04 GMT -5
First and for most I feel that Carson is the best all around QB with the exception of T. Brady. Carson will break most NFL records when he is done. This statement makes your post void of any credibility. Carson is maybe the 3rd or 4th best overall QB in the league right now. And there's this other guy named Peyton Manning... maybe you've heard of him. He will own all the passing records when he or Palmer retire.
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Post by bluecatjosh on Sept 24, 2007 16:06:50 GMT -5
Yeah exactly...i dunno how anyone could forget Peyton Manning........Oh yeah him lol,he will probably have every record when he is done!
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Post by Chris on Sept 25, 2007 6:32:06 GMT -5
first of all coffeeman why all the agression towards my statements just relax. Manning is a great QB but Carson and Brady are younger and Brady I think has a few more Superbowls than Peyton. So chill on the sarcasm and we dont care what Josh has to say anyway j/k bcjosh. If carson was playing for a larger market team like the pats or indy I think you would see a huge difference, right now Im not convinced of two things personal stats or trying to carry a desperate defense. Maybe you heard of using cooth in expressing opinions....
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Post by geezer on Sept 25, 2007 7:33:31 GMT -5
OMG THIS IS THE GREAT DEBATE I LOVE THIS. WHO DEY GO CARSON......
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Post by coffeeman on Sept 25, 2007 10:28:55 GMT -5
first of all coffeeman why all the agression towards my statements just relax. Manning is a great QB but Carson and Brady are younger and Brady I think has a few more Superbowls than Peyton. So chill on the sarcasm and we dont care what Josh has to say anyway j/k bcjosh. If carson was playing for a larger market team like the pats or indy I think you would see a huge difference, right now Im not convinced of two things personal stats or trying to carry a desperate defense. Maybe you heard of using cooth in expressing opinions.... Claiming that carson palmer is the best qb in the NFL is just ignorant. And there was no sarcasm. Your post, or any post you ever make about football from this point forward, has zero credibility.
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Post by pgaloom on Sept 25, 2007 15:43:51 GMT -5
Brett Favre is the best quarterback in football, period. Doesn't care about the money...he just wants to play, win, have fun, and break records. How 'bout that?
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Post by kingcatpaylaker on Sept 25, 2007 18:01:00 GMT -5
give it time the bengals WILL get back on track, just remember the last time they started off like this the ended up going 11 and 5 i think it was.. not sure of the yr. though.. i would have to go back and look it up.. But Carson is one of the best in the business.. And the name calling i think is uncalled for my self, everyone has tehre right ot there own opion without someone calling the other's names. GO BENGALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by coffeeman on Sept 25, 2007 19:56:29 GMT -5
give it time the bengals WILL get back on track, just remember the last time they started off like this the ended up going 11 and 5 i think it was.. not sure of the yr. though.. i would have to go back and look it up.. But Carson is one of the best in the business.. And the name calling i think is uncalled for my self, everyone has tehre right ot there own opion without someone calling the other's names. GO BENGALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With Marvin as their coach they will never get on track...
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Post by Chris on Sept 26, 2007 8:37:35 GMT -5
IT WOULD BE A DECENT DEBATE BUT HOW CAN ONE DEBATE WITH A MORRON LIKE COFFEMAN. SOMEONE WITH AN ADULT MENTALITY JOIN IN THIS DEBATE PLEASE!!!!
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Post by butlersbeagles on Sept 26, 2007 14:05:06 GMT -5
Carson is as good as you are at fishing Chris.We all know how that is.Just joking. Lets be adults here and have a debate with out someone being stupid. Everyone has opinions and lets debate the pros and cons of the opinions without being children.
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Post by butlersbeagles on Sept 26, 2007 14:31:51 GMT -5
I hope this post right. Heres some stats for everyone to ponder
Joe montana YEAR TEAM G/S ATT COMP YDS PCT TD INT LG RATING 1979 49ers 16-1 23 13 96 56.5 1 0 18 81.1 1980 49ers 15-7 273 176 1795 64.5 15 9 71 87.8 1981 49ers 16-16 488 311 3565 63.7 19 12 58 88.4 1982 49ers 9-Sep 346 213 2613 61.6 17 11 55 88 1983 49ers 16-16 515 332 3910 64.5 226 12 77 94.6 Peyton Manning YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT 1998 IND 16 326 575 56.7 3739 6.5 26 78 28 71.2 1999 IND 16 331 533 62.1 4135 7.8 26 80 15 90.7 2000 IND 16 357 571 62.5 4413 7.7 33 78 15 94.7 2001 IND 16 343 547 62.7 4131 7.6 26 86 23 84.1 2002 IND 16 392 591 66.3 4200 7.1 27 69 19 88.8 Carson Palmer YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT 2004 CIN 13 263 432 60.9 2897 6.7 18 76 18 77.3 2005 CIN 16 345 509 67.8 3836 7.5 32 70 12 101.1 2006 CIN 16 324 520 62.3 4035 7.8 28 74 13 93.9 2007 CIN 3 80 125 64 937 7.5 9 39 4 97.3 Bret Favre YEAR TEAM G CMP ATT PCT YDS AVG TD LNG INT RAT 1991 ATL 2 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1992 GNB 15 302 471 64.1 3227 6.9 18 76 13 85.3 1993 GNB 16 318 522 60.9 3303 6.3 19 66 24 72.2 1994 GNB 16 363 582 62.4 3882 6.7 33 49 14 90.7 1995 GNB 16 359 570 63 4413 7.7 38 99 13 99.5
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Post by Chris on Sept 27, 2007 6:30:07 GMT -5
dang Jason you cut deep with the fishing crack (but you are right lol) The stats if I read em right they put Carson with the best of the best. The only question I have are his play calling ability. I feel when the Bengals off. stalls Carson just tries to too much too quick, He just needs to settle down and get first downs. Oh by the way your just showing off with those fancy stats!!!!! When you coming down to fish with me and BLOO!!!!!!
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Post by butlersbeagles on Sept 27, 2007 9:41:58 GMT -5
The stats do put him with the best. He needs to quit his audibles for one game and then see what we get from are OFF Cord. It wont be pretty. He needs to throw it away instead of forcing it. I bet if we had a Dfence he wouldnt force it so much.Thats my opinions
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Post by butlersbeagles on Sept 27, 2007 9:43:17 GMT -5
Ill be down soon to fish.Starting to feel alot better. I like my stats also. Hard to argue when you have evidence
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