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Post by bigcat2525 on Aug 17, 2008 17:07:15 GMT -5
im not sure why all lakes dont treat there lake with copper sulfate once a month (50 lbs) . It seems to really turn the fish on and keeps them moving. Ive heard it is hard on the fish but not sure if that is true unless u use too much. I know of some lakes in particular that will not use it and u are lucky to catch more than 4 or 5 fish there consistently and will have some 0 days as well. I remember seeing james treat CP1 with like 70lbs copper !!!! which might have been a bit much lol but d**n they would be on fire!!!! what u guys think  |
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Post by snake513 on Aug 17, 2008 19:54:57 GMT -5
copper sulfate is not realy supposed to be used to make the fish bite.. it kills algae and mites on the fish..it does make them bite but if you use to much it takes all the oxegon out of the water
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Post by ohiopaylakes on Aug 18, 2008 0:11:30 GMT -5
We treat our lake but once a month is to much. All we use it for is to control mites, algae and some other things. We use this and some other chemicals and alternate with them. Coper Sulfate is great stuff but I believe this is hard on the fish. But it does fire our lake up when we use it. If you use it late in the year when it is hot the algae will die off and lay in the lake putting dangerous gas in your water which will take your oxygen out of the water. We have plenty of aeration so this does not affect our lake that much. copper sulfate is not realy supposed to be used to make the fish bite.. it kills algae and mites on the fish..it does make them bite but if you use to much it takes all the oxegon out of the water |
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Post by bighickory on Aug 18, 2008 18:38:01 GMT -5
Copper sulfate is poisonous to fish. They only bite because it effects there nervous system. The instructions for use from any good chemical dealer will say only treat a portion of your water so the fish can avoid it. Its use was just found by accident that the fish bite like crazy, and has since been used by countless lakes to help people catch fish at their lakes. It is extremely harmful to the fish, and will cut there life expectancy drastically.
( I was shown this by a study done by the Alabama Dept of Natural Resources.) Treating your lakes with the proper amount of salt will help the fish heal, stay healthy, and bite better more naturally. It will not be close to the reaction they will have from copper sulfate or from other things such as insecticides I know some lakes use. But your fish will live much longer, and hold their weight much much better.
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Post by springwatermark on Aug 18, 2008 18:46:03 GMT -5
copper sulfate WILL kill fish. period. bighickory is right. lakes that use it usually end up
having die-off and waste our natural fish resources by having to stock more fish
constantly for replacing the dead. Salt is the best, most natural way to go to have the
fish live healthy, hungry, and live longer for you guys to enjoy.
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Post by Chris on Aug 18, 2008 19:00:25 GMT -5
Salt is safe has a great effect for the fish to bite. Salt turns the fish on by cleaning the gill plates. This procedure also kills mites and water fleas that clog the gill plates. The fish breath better making them feel better so they feed. Also kills all crustations in the water that adds nitrates to the water that creates ammonia(the second killer of fish). Salting can be done year round where copper sulfate should only be used when the water is cooler.
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Post by fishdealer04 on Aug 18, 2008 19:51:16 GMT -5
wow, you learn something new every day...lol
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Post by bigcat2525 on Aug 20, 2008 14:23:30 GMT -5
wow that is very interesting , i also learned somthing today lol sounds like maybe just using when water is cold is the best.
thx
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Post by larrylegend on Aug 22, 2008 8:02:00 GMT -5
hummm... seems this is all pointing back to one lake that seems to use this on a constant basis....
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Post by bighickory on Aug 22, 2008 9:57:04 GMT -5
MANY lakes us it and other chemicals to make their fish bite. Its good for the fishermen in the short run. Guys like to catch lots of fish. But it is also the main reason that some lakes jackpots go so long between being busted. Dead fish don't bust jackpots. Pressure from fishermen to treat the lakes to make the fish bite, out weigh the need to preserve the fish in the lake for some owners. This short term boost sets the stage for the large fish kills, and burns and sores we have all seen and heard about at some lakes. And with the upcoming shortage of big fish, ( I will not Share ) the lakes really need to start worrying about preserving what resources they have. ALL LAKES. Not any one singled out.
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Post by springwatermark on Aug 22, 2008 10:09:51 GMT -5
VERY WELL SAID
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Post by bluecat59 on Aug 22, 2008 12:15:27 GMT -5
many of us fishermen did not realize how bad it actuly is on the fish at least i didd not
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Post by bennie8888 on Aug 22, 2008 13:06:28 GMT -5
many of us fishermen did not realize how bad it actuly is on the fish at least i didd not I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Chris on Aug 22, 2008 13:20:53 GMT -5
I have been criticized for cattails this year in the lake. I would like to clear this issue up for everyone.
The lake is only in it's second year existence. I have had an extremely hard time establishing bait fish in the lake. Last year I had a small die off of fish because of starvation! Last year i put in over 5000 warmouth and that many bluegill. By the end of last year you couldn't catch a gill or warmouth. This year I decided to allow the tails to grow in order for habitat for bait fish. Next year I will kill off all tails. Like Hickory said we have to protect what we have!
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Post by snake513 on Aug 22, 2008 15:12:57 GMT -5
im sure you know what you are talking about hickory..i think it should be used when nescary.not to make the fish bite.
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